
Robert Sklans
Former CHRO
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Episode 230
From Cost Center to Profit Driver: HR's Transformation into a Strategic Asset
Current chapter: Built by People podcast features insights from world's top HR leaders
April 16, 2025 · 19:06
Thesis
“HR must transcend traditional roles by deeply understanding business strategies and market dynamics to drive measurable value, with successful transformations built on genuine stakeholder involvement and clear strategic alignment.”
Show notes
Transforming HR Leadership with Robert Sklans's Insights
In this episode of the Built by People Podcast, host Dave welcomes Rob, an HR executive with a diverse career journey. Rob shares his experiences from starting in emergency medical services to leading HR functions at Johnson & Johnson and other life science companies.
He details his involvement in launching successful product lines like Johnson's Buddies and his key principles for effective HR transformation, emphasizing alignment with business strategy, effective change management, standardization, adaptability, and transparency.
Rob also highlights the importance of being a curious and business-focused HR partner and the significance of involving stakeholders to overcome resistance in change processes.
00:00 Introduction to the Built by People Podcast
00:16 Sponsor Message from Previ
00:45 Rob's Career Journey
04:35 HR as True Business Partners
08:28 Principles of Successful HR Transformation
13:51 Stakeholder Engagement in HR Transformation
18:21 Parting Advice for HR Professionals
18:59 Closing Remarks
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What you'll take away
- 1HR professionals must proactively engage with business growth drivers and market dynamics to become invaluable strategic partners.
- 2Successful HR transformation requires clear alignment with organizational strategy and a deep understanding of the 'why' behind the change.
- 3Effective change management is built on continuous stakeholder involvement and feedback, fostering commitment rather than resistance.
- 4Standardize policies, leverage cloud-based HR systems, and use rapid prototyping to build adaptable and efficient HR processes.
- 5During any HR transformation, ensure payroll accuracy is triple-checked and run in parallel; it's the number one rule to maintain employee trust.
What most organizations get wrong
- •HR doesn't need to ask permission to deeply learn about the business; it only requires deliberate focus and curiosity.
- •Change management should be integrated into the design process itself, rather than being a 'ta-da' announcement at the end, to build genuine commitment.
In Robert's words
“Without involvement, there is no commitment.”
This is presented as a core principle for successful change management by engaging stakeholders.
“Don't mess up people's paychecks.”
This highlights the most critical rule for maintaining employee trust during HR transformations.
“Be curious. Be curious about the business. You don't need to ask permission to talk with folks and learn about what they do and how the business works.”
This offers direct advice for HR professionals to proactively become better business partners.
“Although I was in HR, I would read the market research. I would attend the global franchise leadership meetings in R&D. I would always ask folks about what were they were doing, what was the work they were doing. I would attend poster sessions and I would try to learn as much as I could.”
Illustrates how an HR professional can gain cross-functional insights to drive business value.
“At a startup, a life science startup where I was the CHRO, one of the principles that we had was productive on day 1.”
This defines a clear and actionable principle for designing effective onboarding processes.
“Every step you take can be a change management opportunity if you choose to make it one.”
Emphasizes that change management is an ongoing, iterative process, not a one-time event.
The problems this episode addresses
- •Companies struggle to build sufficient leadership pipelines to meet aggressive growth targets, especially when HR structures are decentralized.
- •Business leaders often resist HR transformation initiatives due to a perceived loss of control or lack of involvement in the design process.
- •Inefficient and non-standardized HR policies and processes across global or large organizations create administrative burdens.
- •Onboarding processes frequently fail to make new hires 'productive on day 1', impacting immediate engagement and efficiency.
- •HR professionals often struggle to position themselves as true business partners by not proactively understanding market dynamics and core business drivers.
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