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Wade Galde

Director Global Total Rewards

The Knot Worldwide

Episode 395

Beyond Loyalty: How Transparency & Purpose Reshape the Modern Employer Contract

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Current chapter: Covering monthly expenses is the number one concern for employees in 2024

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October 29, 2024 · 23:17

Total RewardsCompensation & BenefitsPay TransparencyEmployee Well-beingRemote Work

Thesis

The modern employer-employee contract has dissolved, necessitating a shift towards transparency, trust, and employee-centric total rewards strategies to attract and retain the 'right talent' that aligns with company culture and mission.

Show notes

Title: Wade Galde, Director Global Total Rewards at The Knot Worldwide Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 22:24:07 GMT Duration: 00:23:17 Link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/previ/episodes/Wade-Galde--Director-Global-Total-Rewards-at-The-Knot-Worldwide-e2qafkr GUID: cad417c5-521e-47b7-87a7-86a7bbb1ec06 ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Get compensation right and employees stop thinking about it. Get it wrong and it becomes the only thing they think about. Wade Galde, Director of Global Total Rewards at The Knot Worldwide, built his career around that asymmetry—and he's direct about what it means for how organizations should approach pay strategy.

His argument on pay transparency is less about philosophy than timing: "Better to do it because you want to and not because you have to." State laws are moving in one direction. Younger employees are bringing a fundamentally different set of expectations about salary openness. The organizations that get ahead of this—who build internal pay communication capabilities and train managers to have honest compensation conversations before they're forced to—will have a structural advantage over the ones that scramble to comply. His framing for managers is pointed: if you're a manager, part of your job is owning your employees' compensation. That means knowing where they sit relative to the market, being able to explain it, and having the conversation even when it's uncomfortable.

His contrarian take on talent strategy cuts against conventional cost-cutting logic: the constant lowballing of compensation isn't frugal—it's expensive. Every departure triggers recruiting cost, productivity loss, onboarding time, and the inevitable rehire at market rate anyway. His argument for investing in competitive pay is that the math works. And his argument for hiring "right talent" over "best talent" is equally practical: cultural fit and mission alignment produce better long-term engagement than pedigree, and they cost less.

  • Compensation asymmetry: why getting pay right removes it from employees' mental bandwidth—and getting it wrong makes it everything
  • Pay transparency strategy: why proactive adoption beats reactive compliance—and how to build the internal capability to support it
  • Manager ownership of compensation: the training and mindset shift required for managers to have honest pay conversations
  • Right talent vs. best talent: why cultural fit and mission alignment outperform credentials as predictors of long-term engagement
  • The hidden cost of underpaying: why competitive compensation reduces total cost and increases retention
  • Global benefits strategy: building one coherent employee experience across 12 countries with harmonized but locally adapted programs

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What you'll take away

  1. 1Proactively embracing pay transparency is crucial, driven by regulatory trends and younger generations' expectations for openness.
  2. 2The traditional employer-employee loyalty contract no longer exists; employees now prioritize companies that value their well-being, purpose, and cultural fit over solely high compensation.
  3. 3Prioritize hiring the 'right talent'—individuals who align with company culture and mission—rather than just the 'best' (often most expensive) talent, for better long-term engagement and success.
  4. 4Investing in competitive compensation and comprehensive employee well-being, while seemingly costly upfront, reduces expensive turnover and fosters higher engagement, leading to better overall business outcomes.
  5. 5Equipping managers with training and confidence to have honest, transparent conversations about compensation is vital for building employee trust and managing expectations effectively.
  6. 6Adopting remote-first work models is essential for aligning with modern employee expectations and securing diverse talent, as forcing office returns is a missed opportunity.

What most organizations get wrong

  • Advocating for competitive pay despite higher immediate costs, arguing it's ultimately more cost-effective than high turnover from underpaying employees.
  • Emphasizing the importance of hiring the 'right talent' (cultural fit, mission alignment) over just the 'best talent' (highest pedigree, highest cost).
  • Promoting radical transparency in compensation and encouraging honest conversations with employees, counter to the common managerial fear of backlash.
  • Strong belief in remote-first work as the future, pushing back against organizations forcing employees back into physical offices.

In Wade's words

if you get it right, you know, you kind of, you take that off the table from an employee perspective. But if you get it wrong, it's like paramount. It's the one thing people focus attention on.

Highlights the critical importance of getting compensation right to remove it as a primary reason for employee dissatisfaction and departure.

my general feeling is, you know, it's better to do it because you want to and not because you have to.

Emphasizes proactive adoption of pay transparency rather than forced compliance, suggesting a more authentic and beneficial approach.

it really comes down to, do they value the employee? Is this a place where the employee can be taken care of and can be effective and really enhance their broader goals even outside of the 9 to 5, right?

Defines the new employee value proposition, moving beyond transactional pay to holistic well-being, purpose, and support for individual goals.

it's really about getting the right talent. So not necessarily, you know, the top of their class, but someone that is a good fit for your culture and really aligns with your mission and where you are trying to go and what you're trying to do.

Challenges the conventional wisdom of chasing top-tier talent, emphasizing cultural fit and mission alignment as superior for long-term success.

I think that constant kind of lowballing approach to compensation and benefits, I think, is completely the wrong approach... you may think, you know, by paying people more money, it's costing you. But in actuality, if you want to pay them less, it's going to cost you more in the long run because those people are not going to stick around.

A strong contrarian take on the long-term cost-effectiveness of competitive compensation versus short-term savings, highlighting the hidden costs of turnover.

if you're a manager, part of your job is owning your employees' compensation.

Proposes a controversial but effective stance that managers should be directly responsible for their team's compensation and equipped to discuss it.

The problems this episode addresses

  • High employee turnover due to non-competitive pay significantly increases business costs, impacts focus, and reduces revenue generation.
  • Lack of manager maturity and training in conducting honest compensation conversations leads to fear, secrecy, and mistrust among employees.
  • Siloed global benefits strategies, often a result of M&A, hinder a unified employee experience and create administrative burdens.
  • Employee disengagement stems from the dissolution of traditional loyalty contracts, as younger generations seek purpose and holistic well-being support beyond just salary.
  • Ineffective or disingenuous hiring processes lead to poor cultural fits and higher churn rates when initial expectations are not met.
  • HR leaders face challenges convincing finance to invest in competitive total rewards, balancing cost reduction with long-term talent attraction and retention.

In this episode

Covering monthly expenses is the number one concern for employees in 2024

Built by People

Comp and ben focuses on both compensation and benefits for employees

What Does Compensation and Benefits Mean for Employees?

How many countries are you operating? We're in 12 countries

Have we got a global benefits strategy for our employees?

Pay transparency and being more open and vulnerable with employees are trending trends

Top Executives on Total Rewards

What's something controversial but effective that you find yourself doing in HR

What's Controversial but Effective in the Field of HR?

Many organizations don't have maturity to have honest conversations with employees about compensation

What's the biggest challenge facing managers in the workplace?

Topics covered

Organizations and entities mentioned

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