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Naveen Bhateja

Center of Board Excellence

Nasdaq

Episode 267

AI is a people transformation: Human-centric leadership is now paramount

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March 21, 2025 · 16:02

AI in HRLeadership DevelopmentHR TransformationGlobal Workforce Scaling

Thesis

AI represents a fundamental 'people transformation' rather than just a technological disruption, making human-centric leadership, trust, and culture more critical than ever for organizational success.

Show notes

Title: TRANSFORM EPISODE: Naveen Bhateja, Center of Board Excellence at Nasdaq Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 09:00:00 GMT Duration: 00:16:02 Link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/previ/episodes/TRANSFORM-EPISODE-Naveen-Bhateja--Center-of-Board-Excellence-at-Nasdaq-e305a68 GUID: 5af719f4-4b4d-422d-8d6c-f2d8a308a9c4 ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

"AI is not the one taking away jobs. Leaders who fail to evolve are." Naveen Bhateja brought that frame to Davos. It's sharper than most of what comes out of AI leadership discussions — and it reshapes the whole conversation.

With nearly three decades of HR leadership across GE, Amazon, JPMorgan Chase, and Nasdaq, Naveen has watched every major technological shift in the function. His read on AI is more precise than the breathless hype: it is first and foremost a people transformation, not a technology project. And like all people transformations, it will be won or lost based on culture, trust, and leadership — none of which can be automated. His concern isn't the robots. It's the culture of surveillance that AI tools can accidentally create, the impersonal feedback loops, the algorithmic biases that reflect the flaws in historical data. "Garbage in, garbage out" — and without humans in the loop making consequential HR decisions, those biases compound.

His framework for AI-era leadership development is built around three competencies: digital and AI fluency (understanding what the tools actually do), human-centered leadership (doubling down on what humans do irreplaceably — empathy, trust, relational connection), and ethical governance (knowing when to override the model). His analogy is direct: AI is not a replacement for culture. It's an amplifier. Whatever is already in your culture, it will make more of it. That's a warning for some organizations and an opportunity for others.

What you'll learn:

  • Why AI adoption is fundamentally a people transformation — not a technology one
  • The three leadership competencies required for the AI era: digital fluency, human-centered leadership, and ethical governance
  • How over-rotation on AI efficiency erodes trust and human connection — and how to prevent it
  • The surveillance risk: how AI monitoring tools can create a culture of distrust rather than empowerment
  • The "human in the loop" principle for consequential HR decisions — and why it's non-negotiable
  • Why culture, trust, and purpose remain the only truly non-automatable competitive advantages

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What you'll take away

  1. 1AI is primarily a 'people transformation,' demanding new leadership approaches focused on human connection and adaptability.
  2. 2Effective leaders in the AI era must develop digital/AI fluency, human-centered leadership, and robust ethical decision-making/governance frameworks.
  3. 3While AI can offer hyper-personalized employee experiences and automate mundane tasks, over-reliance can erode trust, reduce human interaction, and amplify algorithmic biases.
  4. 4Companies must implement strong guardrails, ensure transparency, and adopt a 'human in the loop' approach to prevent AI from creating a disengaged or distrustful workforce.
  5. 5Culture, trust, purpose, and leadership remain uniquely human domains that cannot be outsourced to AI tools, serving as the core differentiators in the future of work.

What most organizations get wrong

  • AI is not the one taking away jobs; leaders who fail to evolve are.
  • The true differentiator for companies is talent, a statement that initially received 'smirks and smiles' but was validated by recent global challenges.

In Naveen's words

GE was really my foundation of understanding HR as a business function and not as a support function.

This highlights a foundational shift in how HR should be perceived within an organization.

So talent is the key differentiator or competitive advantage.

This is a core thesis of Naveen's, emphasizing the supreme importance of human capital.

AI is not the one taking away jobs. Leaders who fail to evolve are.

ai-in-hr

This quote offers a contrarian perspective on job displacement by AI, placing responsibility on leadership adaptability.

AI is not a replacement for your culture. It's an amplifier.

This defines AI's role in organizational culture as a tool to enhance, rather than supplant, human elements.

As AI takes more mundane, repetitive, analytical tasks, where can we double down is making us uniquely human.

This emphasizes focusing on inherently human qualities like empathy and emotional intelligence as AI automates other tasks.

So garbage in, garbage out. So without having humans in the loop approach, I think companies can create a huge issue and they really need to show up more responsibly when they're using AI anywhere, but specifically in HR.

This highlights the critical risk of algorithmic bias and the necessity of human oversight for ethical AI implementation in HR.

The problems this episode addresses

  • Eroding human connection and trust if companies over-rotate on AI-driven efficiency, leading to disengagement.
  • The risk of a 'culture of distrust' due to AI surveillance tools, making employees feel monitored rather than empowered.
  • Impersonal and robotic automated feedback from AI-driven processes, leading to reduced employee satisfaction.
  • Over-reliance on AI for communication reducing personal interactions and leading to a less connected workplace, especially in remote/hybrid models.
  • Algorithm bias in AI systems reinforcing systemic inequalities in crucial HR processes like hiring, promotion, and performance evaluations.
  • A lack of digital and AI fluency among board members, posing a 'worrisome' gap in critical skills for effective governance.
  • The challenge of balancing AI efficiency with the need for fairness, transparency, and inclusivity to avoid unintended biases in HR applications.

In this episode

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Built by People

Dave Goldberg has been in human resources for almost three decades

Top Executives: The Career Journey

Naveen spoke at Davos about human connection in an increasingly digital workforce

AI's Impact on CHROs and CEOs

Naveen sees opportunities and risks as organizations become more dependent on AI

Can Company Culture Evolve With AI?

Leadership roles are evolving rapidly in response to AI and AI integration

Leadership roles in the era of AI

Naveen Gupta talks about responsible AI and ethics in HR

Responsible AI in Human Resources

Dave: Great podcast. I really enjoyed these questions and, and these are critical topics

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