
Shari Chernack
Chief People Officer
Isaacson Miller
Episode 107
The Hidden Burden: Empowering CHROs with Networks & Next-Gen HR
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July 15, 2025 · 16:06
Thesis
“CHROs face unique isolation and heavy burdens due to their confidential roles, necessitating strong external networks, coaching, and a diversified HR team with advanced skills to navigate complex workforce challenges and drive strategic change like AI adoption.”
Show notes
Shari Chernack spent two-thirds of her career in consulting at the intersection of people and transformation. She came up through Mercer, where she co-led the "Voice of the CHRO" research — a project that surfaced something few are willing to say plainly: the CHRO role is structurally isolating in ways no other C-suite position is.
The reasons are worth understanding. CHROs are business partners to the executive team, coaches to senior leaders, and sometimes the people conducting investigations into those same leaders. They hold some of the most sensitive information in the company and can't discuss it. They're the organization's confidential advisor and, in the same meeting, its mediator. The Great Resignation compounded this — HR leaders who moved into new roles found the job wasn't what was described, and turnover at the top of HR has been elevated ever since. Her prescription: build a strong external network before you need it, find a coach, and recognize that the CHRO peer community is one of the most underutilized resources available to you.
Her other strong take: HR has a "guild mentality" that needs to loosen. If your team lacks analytics or technology expertise, hire for it from outside HR's traditional pipeline. Hire to your weak flank. It feels uncomfortable. It raises the bar. That's the point. Her parting framing: "You own 51% of your career. You're the majority shareholder."
- The structural loneliness of the CHRO role — and why Mercer's "Voice of the CHRO" research made it quantifiable
- Why CHRO turnover spiked post-pandemic and what drove HR leaders to move into the wrong roles
- How to build the external networks and coaching relationships that compensate for the isolation inherent in the role
- The "guild mentality" problem in HR — and why recruiting analytics and tech experts from outside HR is the solution
- Why the "future of work" looks different for every organization — and the risk of skipping steps
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What you'll take away
- 1CHROs must actively seek external networks and coaching to counteract the inherent isolation and confidentiality burdens of their role, finding outlets for support and advice.
- 2HR departments should overcome a 'guild mentality' by intentionally recruiting or developing analytics and technology experts from diverse backgrounds to bridge talent gaps and modernize capabilities.
- 3HR leaders are 'majority shareholders' of their careers; they must proactively identify growth opportunities, drive their development, and make strategic decisions about their roles.
- 4HR is uniquely positioned to drive technology adoption (e.g., AI) by embedding new tools into learning plans and performance management systems, considering human factors and work transformation.
- 5Organizational readiness for the 'future of work' varies significantly; HR strategies for technology adoption and change must be tailored to the company's current state and capacity for change.
What most organizations get wrong
- •HR should loosen its 'guild mentality' and actively recruit analytics and technology experts from non-traditional HR backgrounds to enhance team capabilities.
- •Leaders should 'hire to one's weak flank' by bringing in team members with more expertise in areas where the leader is less strong, as this grows the entire team and raises the bar.
- •The 'future of work' is not a universal endpoint; many organizations are still catching up to the 'present of work' and require tailored strategies rather than blindly adopting advanced trends.
In Shari's words
“We coined the singularity of the head of HR or CHRO role is that a CHRO is in many cases a business partner to the executive team, maybe coaching team members through certain things, maybe even occasionally needing to manage employee relations issues where there may be a complaint about or challenge with one of the senior leaders, and the CHRO or chief people officer needs to mediate, needs to document, needs to make sure that things are being addressed properly. So, all of that creates a certain kind of formality between the CHRO or chief people officer and the rest of the executive team that isn't the same as almost any other role.”
This quote defines the unique and often isolating nature of the CHRO role within an executive team due to confidentiality and mediation responsibilities.
“CHROs and chief people officers are privy to some of the most sensitive information in the company and are not necessarily able able to share it. If I'm doing an investigation, I'm not able to, or I really shouldn't talk to my fellow C-suite leaders about it unless they need to be informed or involved. So there's also a lot of information that is held by the CHRO or chief people officer, and that might feel very heavy.”
It highlights the heavy burden of confidentiality and sensitive information that CHROs carry, contributing to their feelings of isolation.
“My hot take for a long time has been that HR has a little bit of a guild mentality that we should loosen a little bit. And if we need an analytics expert or we need a technology expert, HR has not traditionally nurtured those career paths. We might not have as much talent as a data function or a technology function might have. How can you create a blended team that has the skills if your team does not have the inclination or the capability to develop those skills through learning and development.”
This challenges traditional HR hiring by advocating for interdisciplinary teams and sourcing expertise from outside conventional HR career paths.
“I'm also a big believer in hiring to one's weak flank. It can feel somewhat taunting or intimidating to bring in somebody with more expertise in a certain area, but it's enormously helpful because it grows the entire team. It raises the bar. It often fills gaps that other C-suite members might feel without those hires in place.”
This offers a strategic, albeit counter-intuitive, hiring approach for leadership to strengthen their teams and overall organizational capabilities.
“You own 51% of your career, you're the majority shareholder, which means that you are responsible for your own career growth, your own development. It's really important to take the driver's seat, to understand where you as an HR leader have the opportunity to grow and develop, whether that is specific skills like we've discussed around analytics and technology, or whether it is certain kinds of leadership skills. You, as the HR leader, have to know when an opportunity or a role that you're in no longer feels like the right one and either act to improve it or act to move your career in the right direction.”
This empowers individuals, especially HR leaders, to take proactive ownership and responsibility for their professional growth and career trajectory.
“So I used to say some of my clients may not be in the present of work. We would be skipping over quite a few steps to go right to the future of work. In some cases, it might make sense that we're going to leapfrog over a whole series of steps where people may not have had some of the technology in place that they could have had for the last 5 or 10 years and are going to leapfrog over it. But the future of work looks different for every organization.”
It highlights the importance of tailoring 'future of work' strategies to an organization's actual readiness and current capabilities, rather than a generic approach.
The problems this episode addresses
- •CHROs experience loneliness and isolation due to their unique position as confidential advisors, mediators, and custodians of sensitive company information.
- •High turnover among HR leaders post-pandemic, often driven by misalignment with executive teams or unfulfilled career expectations in new roles.
- •Widespread employee burnout (affecting 98% in one survey) exacerbated by the pandemic and the Great Resignation, impacting retention.
- •HR teams often lack critical internal expertise in people analytics and advanced technology, hindering their ability to leverage data and new tools effectively.
- •Organizations face challenges in effectively adopting new technologies like AI, often due to a lack of understanding of human factors and work transformation.
- •Companies struggle with varying levels of readiness for the 'future of work', making a one-size-fits-all approach to change management ineffective.
In this episode
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