Sean Bengry
Senior Learning and Development Leader
DaVita Kidney Care
Episode 149
Future of learning: AI demands a new 'idea economy' mindset
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Built By PeopleJune 12, 2025 · 14:50
Thesis
“Artificial intelligence is a 'general platform technology' that will fundamentally transform how we learn, shifting the value from mere knowledge acquisition to understanding and application in an 'idea economy,' requiring proactive preparation through integrated knowledge graphs and an adaptable mindset in L&D.”
Show notes
Leveraging Technology and Human-Centered Design in Learning & Development with Sean Bengry on Built by People Podcast
In this episode of the Built by People Podcast, the host welcomes Sean, who shares his journey through four career phases: build, manage, consult, and lead, deeply rooted in a love for learning.
Sean discusses leveraging technology in talent development, including a customized learning platform at PWC for their cybersecurity practice. He explains incorporating human-centered design into training programs and details a significant learning design strategy at Accenture that improved engagement and performance.
Sean elaborates on leveraging AI and knowledge management to enhance learning experiences and shares his vision of AI's transformative impact on learning and development.
The episode concludes with Sean's parting advice on the importance of combining elegant design with technology and being T-shaped in one's career.
00:00 Introduction and Career Journey
01:52 Leveraging Technology in Talent Development
03:42 Human-Centered Design in Training Programs
04:36 Implementing Learning Design Strategies
06:16 Enhancing Learning with AI and Technology
08:39 Future of AI in Learning and Development
12:59 Parting Advice and Final Thoughts
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What you'll take away
- 1AI is a 'general platform technology' that will profoundly reshape learning, moving the economy from knowledge as a commodity to understanding and application.
- 2Proactively build a well-formed information or knowledge graph to prepare for an 'intelligence management strategy' where AI layers can provide real-time learning assistance.
- 3Adopt a human-centered design approach in L&D by focusing on business metrics, prototyping carelessly, measuring ruthlessly, and sharing credit generously.
- 4Recognize the symbiotic relationship between design and technology, using learning as the linchpin to balance them and enhance human capabilities.
- 5Develop a 'T-shaped' skill profile – deep in one domain for effective leverage of technology, and wide in curiosity and continuous learning for future adaptability.
What most organizations get wrong
- •Knowledge is becoming a commodity; the future value will be in understanding and application, ushering in an 'idea economy'.
- •Elegant design dies without technology, and the coolest technology is pointless without design, emphasizing a necessary symbiotic relationship rather than prioritizing one over the other.
In Sean's words
“We put together a learning technology platform that aggregated both the external, internal certifications from various vendors, as well as added our own internal learning and development pieces to create customized playlists for each level and each milestone that a person in that practice would have to go through.”
This highlights a practical and impactful application of learning technology to solve specific business and career development challenges.
“Always keeping the, both the learner and the business at the center. So you should always be falling in love with the question, what business metric am I moving with this? This learning problem, learning challenge, and then prototype carelessly, measure ruthlessly, and then share the credit generously.”
This provides a clear, actionable framework for incorporating human-centered design principles into training programs.
“Instead of people looking for the right file that captures the information that they're looking for, they actually just ask the question, where, what is the answer to this? How do I do this thing? What is this policy all about?”
This illustrates the transformative shift from document retrieval to real-time, conversational learning enabled by AI-layered knowledge graphs.
“Artificial intelligence right now is a GPT, and most people understand that as ChatGPT, but it's not that GPT that I'm talking about. I'm talking about a general platform technology.”
This offers a compelling re-framing of AI's fundamental nature, emphasizing its pervasive impact on all aspects of life and work.
“Elegant design dies without technology, to be honest with you, in this day and age, you can have the beautiful thing, but if it doesn't do anything and it doesn't provide any affordances or provide a a better way or a capability for me as a person, it just dies. So elegant design dies without tech. I would also say that the coolest tech is completely pointless without design.”
This powerful statement underscores the critical, symbiotic relationship between design and technology in creating truly effective solutions.
The problems this episode addresses
- •**Inefficient Certification Tracking**: Organizations struggle to efficiently track and verify employee certifications (especially in fields like cybersecurity), hindering their ability to respond to RFPs and win new business.
- •**Information Silos & Discovery Challenges**: Knowledge workers waste time searching for critical information (files, templates, policies, procedures) across disparate systems, impacting productivity and real-time learning.
- •**Outdated Learning Measurement**: Traditional L&D metrics (SCORM, LMS, LXP) are becoming inadequate for measuring true learning, performance, and accomplishment in an evolving, AI-driven 'idea economy'.
In this episode
Built by People podcast features insights from world's top HR leaders
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Sean, can you tell us about a time where you leveraged technology to solve a challenge
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Sean, how do you incorporate human-centered design into training programs
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Sean, can you tell us about a learning design strategy that improved engagement and performance
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Sean: We leveraged technology to enhance the learning experience for employees
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How do you see artificial intelligence shaping the world of learning and development
How AI is reshaping the world of learning and development
Sean Miller says elegant design dies without technology
Sean Conway on the Intersection of Design, Technology, and Learning
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