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Shari Chernack

Chief People Officer

Isaacson Miller

Episode 107

The Hidden Burden: Empowering CHROs with Networks & Next-Gen HR

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July 15, 2025 · 16:06

HR LeadershipOrganizational TransformationPeople AnalyticsTalent Development

Thesis

CHROs face unique isolation and heavy burdens due to their confidential roles, necessitating strong external networks, coaching, and a diversified HR team with advanced skills to navigate complex workforce challenges and drive strategic change like AI adoption.

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Title: Shari Chernack, Chief People Officer at Isaacson Miller Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:00:00 GMT Duration: 00:16:06 Link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/previ/episodes/Shari-Chernack--Chief-People-Officer-at-Isaacson-Miller-e34kb65 GUID: e407a479-220c-4ae5-938c-8b65475927ce ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Navigating HR Leadership Challenges with Shari Chernack - Insights from the Built by People Podcast

In this episode of the Built by People Podcast, the host welcomes Shari, Chief People Officer at Isaacson Miller, who shares her unique career journey from consulting to leading HR in various organizations. Sherry discusses the isolation and challenges faced by CHROs, especially during the pandemic, drawing from her research at Mercer and her anecdotal experiences. She emphasizes the importance of external networks, coaching, and building a diversified HR team to tackle complex issues around people transformation. Shari also highlights the role of HR in technology adoption and provides valuable career advice for HR leaders. Tune in to learn about the strategies and insights that have helped CHROs navigate their roles effectively.

00:00 Introduction to the Built by People Podcast

00:15 Understanding Previ and Employee Financial Wellbeing

00:37 Guest Introduction: Sharri's Career Journey

01:46 Challenges Faced by CHROs Today

05:36 High Turnover Rates Among HR Leaders

07:54 Strategies for CHROs to Navigate Competing Demands

11:12 Transforming HR Teams with Analytics and Technology

13:25 Parting Advice for HR Leaders

15:59 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

What you'll take away

  1. 1CHROs must actively seek external networks and coaching to counteract the inherent isolation and confidentiality burdens of their role, finding outlets for support and advice.
  2. 2HR departments should overcome a 'guild mentality' by intentionally recruiting or developing analytics and technology experts from diverse backgrounds to bridge talent gaps and modernize capabilities.
  3. 3HR leaders are 'majority shareholders' of their careers; they must proactively identify growth opportunities, drive their development, and make strategic decisions about their roles.
  4. 4HR is uniquely positioned to drive technology adoption (e.g., AI) by embedding new tools into learning plans and performance management systems, considering human factors and work transformation.
  5. 5Organizational readiness for the 'future of work' varies significantly; HR strategies for technology adoption and change must be tailored to the company's current state and capacity for change.

What most organizations get wrong

  • HR should loosen its 'guild mentality' and actively recruit analytics and technology experts from non-traditional HR backgrounds to enhance team capabilities.
  • Leaders should 'hire to one's weak flank' by bringing in team members with more expertise in areas where the leader is less strong, as this grows the entire team and raises the bar.
  • The 'future of work' is not a universal endpoint; many organizations are still catching up to the 'present of work' and require tailored strategies rather than blindly adopting advanced trends.

In Shari's words

We coined the singularity of the head of HR or CHRO role is that a CHRO is in many cases a business partner to the executive team, maybe coaching team members through certain things, maybe even occasionally needing to manage employee relations issues where there may be a complaint about or challenge with one of the senior leaders, and the CHRO or chief people officer needs to mediate, needs to document, needs to make sure that things are being addressed properly. So, all of that creates a certain kind of formality between the CHRO or chief people officer and the rest of the executive team that isn't the same as almost any other role.

This quote defines the unique and often isolating nature of the CHRO role within an executive team due to confidentiality and mediation responsibilities.

CHROs and chief people officers are privy to some of the most sensitive information in the company and are not necessarily able able to share it. If I'm doing an investigation, I'm not able to, or I really shouldn't talk to my fellow C-suite leaders about it unless they need to be informed or involved. So there's also a lot of information that is held by the CHRO or chief people officer, and that might feel very heavy.

It highlights the heavy burden of confidentiality and sensitive information that CHROs carry, contributing to their feelings of isolation.

My hot take for a long time has been that HR has a little bit of a guild mentality that we should loosen a little bit. And if we need an analytics expert or we need a technology expert, HR has not traditionally nurtured those career paths. We might not have as much talent as a data function or a technology function might have. How can you create a blended team that has the skills if your team does not have the inclination or the capability to develop those skills through learning and development.

This challenges traditional HR hiring by advocating for interdisciplinary teams and sourcing expertise from outside conventional HR career paths.

I'm also a big believer in hiring to one's weak flank. It can feel somewhat taunting or intimidating to bring in somebody with more expertise in a certain area, but it's enormously helpful because it grows the entire team. It raises the bar. It often fills gaps that other C-suite members might feel without those hires in place.

This offers a strategic, albeit counter-intuitive, hiring approach for leadership to strengthen their teams and overall organizational capabilities.

You own 51% of your career, you're the majority shareholder, which means that you are responsible for your own career growth, your own development. It's really important to take the driver's seat, to understand where you as an HR leader have the opportunity to grow and develop, whether that is specific skills like we've discussed around analytics and technology, or whether it is certain kinds of leadership skills. You, as the HR leader, have to know when an opportunity or a role that you're in no longer feels like the right one and either act to improve it or act to move your career in the right direction.

This empowers individuals, especially HR leaders, to take proactive ownership and responsibility for their professional growth and career trajectory.

So I used to say some of my clients may not be in the present of work. We would be skipping over quite a few steps to go right to the future of work. In some cases, it might make sense that we're going to leapfrog over a whole series of steps where people may not have had some of the technology in place that they could have had for the last 5 or 10 years and are going to leapfrog over it. But the future of work looks different for every organization.

It highlights the importance of tailoring 'future of work' strategies to an organization's actual readiness and current capabilities, rather than a generic approach.

The problems this episode addresses

  • CHROs experience loneliness and isolation due to their unique position as confidential advisors, mediators, and custodians of sensitive company information.
  • High turnover among HR leaders post-pandemic, often driven by misalignment with executive teams or unfulfilled career expectations in new roles.
  • Widespread employee burnout (affecting 98% in one survey) exacerbated by the pandemic and the Great Resignation, impacting retention.
  • HR teams often lack critical internal expertise in people analytics and advanced technology, hindering their ability to leverage data and new tools effectively.
  • Organizations face challenges in effectively adopting new technologies like AI, often due to a lack of understanding of human factors and work transformation.
  • Companies struggle with varying levels of readiness for the 'future of work', making a one-size-fits-all approach to change management ineffective.

In this episode

This podcast is presented by Previ. Covering monthly expenses is the number one concern

Built by People

I'd like to share a little bit more about your career journey

WSJD Live: What's Your Career Journey?

Jeri says addressing loneliness and isolation among CHROs has become increasingly important

The unique challenges of the Chief People Officer

High turnover rate among HR leaders since the pandemic could be contributing factors

The High Turnover Rate Among HR Leaders Since the Pandemic

Sherri, what strategies have you implemented to help CHROs navigate multiple responsibilities

The Challenges of Chief People Officers (

Successful CHROs transform their teams to focus more on analytics and technology

CHRO: The Future of Analytics, Data & AI

You own 51% of your career, you're the majority shareholder

What parting advice would you share for HR leaders?

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