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Kenneth Ceaser

Chief People & Culture Officer and Chief of Staff

MADD

Episode 174

Transforming HR: How Business Acumen and AI Build Credible Workforces

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May 27, 2025 · 11:32

Global HR LeadershipOrganizational EffectivenessAI in HRMentorship & HR Development

Thesis

HR professionals must combine deep business understanding and effective communication with emerging technologies like AI and a strong commitment to mentorship to build credible, impactful, and future-ready workforces.

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Title: Kenneth Ceaser, Chief People & Culture Officer and Chief of Staff at MADD Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 09:00:00 GMT Duration: 00:11:32 Link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/previ/episodes/Kenneth-Ceaser--Chief-People--Culture-Officer-and-Chief-of-Staff-at-MADD-e32ecjs GUID: 7d33fc1b-be44-4ec0-9c83-7fea1d8d6e51 ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Kenneth Ceaser spent 24 years doing HR in the Air Force — deployed globally, working in some of the most demanding and consequential environments imaginable. When he transitioned to the corporate world, the technical complexity was different but the fundamental insight carried over: HR credibility is earned not just through what you know, but through how precisely and professionally you present it.

Now Chief People & Culture Officer and Chief of Staff at MADD, Kenneth talks about the mentors who shaped him — four extraordinary women leaders who independently taught him variations of the same lesson — and about the business acumen he believes separates effective HR business partners from the ones who get cut out of key decisions. His rule is direct: if you don't understand the business, from financial acumen to operations, you can't genuinely partner with the people running it. That understanding is also the prerequisite for using AI effectively, which Kenneth's team is actively deploying for predictive analytics and turnover trend analysis. His insight on AI prompting is worth highlighting: you can't extract good output from an AI system if you don't already understand how the underlying process is supposed to work.

Kenneth has also built something unusual — a quasi-HR generalist certification course he created to fill the gap that formal credentials like SHRM leave behind, covering workforce planning and core knowledge areas that young professionals need but rarely get before they're in the seat. His mentees have gone on to multiple promotions. The legacy he's most focused on isn't his portfolio of accomplishments; it's the careers he's helped shape.

  • Credibility through presentation, not just knowledge — why a single mistake in a business leader meeting can undo months of trust-building
  • Financial acumen as an HR prerequisite — how understanding operations and financials makes you a genuine business partner instead of a support function
  • AI for predictive analytics in HR — what Kenneth's team is actually using it for, and why prompt quality depends on process knowledge
  • The HR generalist certification gap — why Kenneth built his own training course and what young professionals consistently say they'd missed before taking it
  • Mentorship as legacy — how Kenneth identifies mentees by work ethic and aspiration, and the promotions that have followed
  • AI augments, it doesn't replace — and why HR's role in upskilling the workforce for AI is one of the function's most important upcoming responsibilities

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What you'll take away

  1. 1Credibility for HR professionals hinges on both the quality of information and its professional presentation to business partners.
  2. 2Effective HR business partnership requires a deep understanding of the business, including financial acumen and operations.
  3. 3Leveraging AI in HR demands that professionals first grasp the core functions of a program to formulate accurate and effective prompts.
  4. 4Accessible, practical certification and training are crucial for developing competent HR generalists, covering foundational knowledge often missed.
  5. 5Mentorship is vital for cultivating future HR leaders, focusing on work ethic and aspirations, and helping them navigate career growth.

What most organizations get wrong

    In Kenneth's words

    It's not all about what you know, it's how you present it and yourself to your business leaders, because As an HR, it takes us a lot to build up credibility, and it only takes one bad, oh, you forgot to dot an I, to lose credibility on a presentation.

    This highlights the critical role of presentation and attention to detail in maintaining HR credibility with business leaders.

    To be effective, you have to understand the business, even from the business side, from financial acumen to operations. Because if you don't understand what the employee or the business leaders are doing, you can't be an effective business partner.

    This emphasizes the necessity for HR to deeply integrate with and comprehend business fundamentals to truly partner effectively.

    If you don't understand how something is supposed to be, you cannot truly provide prompts into AI to get the product that you need.

    ai-in-hr

    This quote underscores that effective AI utilization by HR requires foundational knowledge of the underlying HR processes to craft precise prompts.

    AI is here and AI is here to stay. And I think that it will not replace jobs, but it will help augment jobs. And HR professionals, we need to help facilitate not only the technology itself, but teaching individuals how to integrate that technology and also upskilling individuals as well.

    ai-in-hr

    This defines AI's role as an augmentative tool and positions HR as central to upskilling and integrating this technology into the workforce.

    The problems this episode addresses

    • HR professionals often struggle to maintain credibility with business leaders due to poor presentation or lack of attention to detail in their deliverables.
    • Many HR professionals lack a deep understanding of core business functions, including financial acumen and operations, hindering their effectiveness as business partners.
    • Young HR professionals face high costs for traditional certifications (SHRM, HRCI), creating a barrier to entry for comprehensive generalist training.
    • HR generalists frequently have gaps in essential knowledge areas like workforce planning.
    • HR teams may struggle to effectively leverage AI for predictive analytics and turnover trend analysis without proper understanding of prompt engineering and data requirements.

    In this episode

    Built by People podcast features insights from world's top HR leaders

    Built by People

    Dan: Dave spent 24 years in the Air Force in HR

    Dave Knows How to Get Out of Retirement

    Ken says he had 4 phenomenal mentors who shaped his approach to mentoring others

    MRK: The Mentors

    Ken, can you describe a specific instance where you successfully applied AI prompts to HR

    Microsoft's AI Prompts in HR

    Ken: Dave, you developed a quasi-HR generalist certification course

    Ken Moore on Leading an Incognito Certification Training

    Ken believes mentorship is looking at a person's work ethic and aspirations

    Ken Miller on MENTORSHIP

    Ken: AI will not replace jobs, but it will help augment jobs

    Ken Krupa on Built By People

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