
Karishma Patel Buford
Chief People Officer
Spring Health
Episode 353
Beyond Empathy: Mental Health as Your Organization's Strategic Imperative
Current chapter: Built by People podcast features insights from world's top HR leaders
January 13, 2025 · 10:48
Thesis
“Supporting employee mental health is not just an empathic choice but a critical business imperative that directly drives engagement, productivity, and organizational resilience in a constantly challenging world.”
Show notes
In this episode of the Built by People podcast, sponsored by Previ, host Dave converses with Karishma Patel Buford about her diverse career journey from a clinical psychologist to a chief people officer. Karishma shares her experiences across various industries, including her roles at Groupon and Spring Health. The discussion delves into the evolving role of mental health in the workplace, the impact of empathy in leadership, and the integration of AI in therapy. Topics also include tailoring mental health benefits to diverse employee needs and supporting the sandwich generation balancing multiple responsibilities. 00:44 Meet Karishma: A Journey from Clinical Psychology to HR Leadership 03:10 The Role of Mental Health in the Workplace 04:38 Leading with Empathy: Impact on Company Culture 06:20 The Future of AI in Therapy 07:28 Tailoring Mental Health Benefits for Diverse Needs 08:40 Supporting the Sandwich Generation 10:24 Parting Advice and Closing Remarks
What you'll take away
- 1Position mental health support as a strategic business imperative that enhances employee engagement and productivity, rather than merely a benefit.
- 2Implement initiatives like mental health summits, featuring senior leaders sharing personal journeys, to foster a culture of vulnerability, empathy, and psychological safety.
- 3Approach organizational change management with deep empathy, prioritizing understanding the impact on individuals and clearly communicating the 'why' behind changes.
- 4Explore AI integration to optimize mental health care delivery by empowering providers with tools for efficiency (e.g., notes) and precision matching of interventions.
- 5Tailor mental health benefits to address the diverse and complex needs of a modern workforce, including neurodivergence, specialty care requirements, and challenges faced by the 'sandwich generation.'
What most organizations get wrong
In Karishma's words
“When we're feeling anxious or depressed, we're not doing our best work. We're not our best selves. We're not as engaged and productive, and the being able to be your best yourself means you're doing your best in the workplace and in life.”
Highlights the direct correlation between employee mental health and business outcomes like engagement and productivity.
“The power of hearing from senior leaders is game-changing, right? Because there is a perception of senior leaders, you have to be you know, always in check and not necessarily show vulnerability, but there's so much power, so much power in connection when senior leaders talk about their mental health journey, their challenges, and their, they, they show vulnerability.”
Emphasizes how leadership vulnerability builds connection and transforms company culture around mental health.
“The heart of change management is understanding what does it mean for the person who's impacted by that change? And that starts with empathy, right? Putting yourself in the shoes of that person and understanding people may not agree with the change, but they need to understand why. They need to understand the purpose and they need to understand how they're impacted.”
Defines empathy as the foundational principle for effective and human-centered change management.
“I think the very first thing that AI can do is help optimize care by empowering the provider. Even things as basic as notes, right? And being more efficient and being able to capture exactly the most critical points in a therapy session to optimize the care and the intervention that comes from it. Personalized matching, right?”
Outlines specific, practical applications of AI to improve efficiency and personalization in mental health care delivery.
“It's never one size fits all. That is so understanding that it's not just the here's the benefit, let's drop it in. We did our part. Every employee has this many sessions. It's really thinking about holistic care. And so 20% of the workforce is neurodivergent. We have 14 million people who need more complex support and specialty care.”
Advocates for a holistic, tailored approach to mental health benefits that recognizes and addresses diverse employee needs beyond generic offerings.
“I strongly believe it's less about hours that you're working, right, in an exempt population, hours that you're working, but performance and How are you delivering? And so it has to be flexibility and compatibility. So flex— offering that flexibility of when you're going to work or when you might need a few hours off in the afternoon to pick up the kids from school or to support your parents.”
Proposes a performance-driven, flexible work model as a key strategy to support employees balancing work with family responsibilities, especially the 'sandwich generation'.
The problems this episode addresses
- •Employees are facing significant financial stress, impacting their well-being and productivity, requiring employer-backed solutions for household expenses.
- •Organizations struggle to articulate the clear business ROI of mental health support, often viewing it solely as an empathic gesture rather than a strategic investment.
- •Leaders may hesitate to show vulnerability, hindering the creation of psychologically safe environments where employees feel comfortable discussing mental health challenges.
- •Change initiatives frequently fail because they overlook the human impact, leading to resistance and lack of buy-in from affected employees.
- •Mental health providers face inefficiencies in their practice (e.g., administrative tasks, patient matching) that limit their capacity to deliver optimal care.
- •Current mental health benefits often adopt a 'one-size-fits-all' approach, failing to adequately support diverse employee needs like neurodivergence or complex care requirements (e.g., substance use, PTSD).
- •Employees in the 'sandwich generation' are overburdened by balancing childcare, elder care, and career demands without sufficient workplace flexibility or support systems.
In this episode
Built by People podcast features insights from world's top HR leaders
Built by People
Dave Wahl started his career as a clinical psychologist before moving to executive coaching
Exploring the Career Journey
How do you foresee the role of mental health evolving in workplace environments over the next years
How Mental Health is Affecting Workplace Environments
Leading with empathy can positively impact company culture and employee wellbeing
Leading with Empathetic Touch
Another example of empathy is around change management. The heart of change management is understanding what affects people
"Empathy in Change Management"
Spring Health uses AI to help optimize care by empowering the provider
How AI is impacting mental health care
Employees in the sandwich generation balancing responsibilities for children and parents
What is the Sandwich Generation?
Charisma shares some parting advice with Built by People podcast audience
Dave McClure on His Last Podcast
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Organizations and entities mentioned
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