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Phil Monaghan

Chief of Human Resources

Skyland Trail

Episode 378

HR isn't policing: Stand Your Ground to Become a Strategic Business Partner

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December 16, 2024 · 19:39

HR Business Partner ModelCompensation & Performance ManagementInternal Client RelationshipsChange Management

Thesis

HR professionals, especially HR Business Partners, must deeply understand their organization's business goals, build trusting relationships, and proactively customize HR services to drive business outcomes. They should confidently offer expert recommendations and 'stand their ground' to earn respect and maximize their impact.

Show notes

Title: Phil Monaghan, Chief of Human Resources at Skyland Trail Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 11:00:00 GMT Duration: 00:19:39 Link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/previ/episodes/Phil-Monaghan--Chief-of-Human-Resources-at-Skyland-Trail-e2s8v7m GUID: ad93b504-d120-4633-a879-5d19e4a90f98 ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

In this episode of the Built by People podcast, host David interviews HR leader Phil Monaghan to uncover his extensive journey in HR, starting from his transition from financial services to HR roles in various organizations including NTT Data and the American Cancer Society. Phil shares key experiences and lessons learned, including the importance of standing your ground, building strong relationships, and becoming an effective HR Business Partner. He discusses the evolving landscape of HR with an emphasis on business acumen, change management, and transparent performance management. Phil also provides valuable advice for HR professionals to help them drive business outcomes and maintain lifelong learning. 00:44 Guest Introduction: Phil Monaghan 00:50 Phil Monahan's Career Journey 05:03 Standing Your Ground as an HR Professional 07:21 The Role of an HR Business Partner 09:25 Key Skills for HR Business Partners 14:01 Trends in Compensation and Performance Management 18:24 Parting Advice for HR Professionals 19:32 Conclusion and Farewell

What you'll take away

  1. 1HR professionals should confidently present their expert recommendations and rationale, even when disagreeing with superiors, to earn respect and achieve optimal outcomes.
  2. 2HR Business Partners must deeply understand their internal clients' business goals and customize HR services to enable business outcomes, acting as an 'enabling organization' rather than a policing one.
  3. 3Continuously invest in building strong, trusting relationships with internal clients to be seen as a strategic partner, not just a compliance enforcer.
  4. 4Implement transparent compensation philosophies and structures, and differentiate rewards for top performers in key positions to motivate and retain talent.
  5. 5Focus performance management on a few meaningful goals and competencies, supported by regular check-ins and managers who are comfortable delivering honest feedback.

What most organizations get wrong

  • Constructively disagreeing with higher-ranking executives in a respectful, positive manner can actually strengthen relationships and earn respect, rather than harming them.
  • HR should rarely say 'no' outright to business clients, instead focusing on presenting options, their pros and cons, and offering recommendations to find solutions together.

In Phil's words

So I would say that one of the most important things that, that you can do as an HR professional is to— I call it standing your ground.

This highlights the importance of HR professionals having conviction and advocating for their recommendations to gain respect.

HR business partners need to know the goals and the business of the clients that they serve. And not just to be able to repeat them, but to know those goals intimately...

This emphasizes the deep business acumen required for HRBPs to be strategic partners, not just administrative support.

You never want to go to a client and say no, right? Sometimes you have to, but it's rare. You have to be strong in your skill sets and influence and negotiation...

This illustrates a partnership-focused approach where HR offers options and recommendations instead of outright rejections.

And if you can stay on top of the HR trends themselves and that way you can be— you have a sense of what's going on in the marketplace, either in general or specific to an industry or geography. You can really help make sure that your clients are aware of some of those trends.

This underscores the HRBP's role in proactive market awareness and guiding clients through evolving HR landscapes.

So I'm going to argue all day long that you want to pay your best performers the most.

This advocates for intentional compensation differentiation to reward and retain top talent.

So if you are working with a business and they're doing something wrong, help them grow. Don't look at it through the lens of punishment or correction. Help them learn to look at it through the lens of growth and development.

This promotes a developmental and supportive approach from HR rather than a punitive one.

The problems this episode addresses

  • HR often being perceived as 'the police' rather than a strategic business partner, leading to a lack of trust and influence.
  • People managers typically struggle with delivering honest and difficult feedback, hindering employee development and effective performance management.
  • Nonprofit organizations sometimes lag behind the for-profit sector in adopting modern compensation and performance management strategies.
  • Employees frequently lack understanding and confidence in their organization's compensation philosophy and how pay decisions are made.
  • Companies with staff across different geographies face complex issues like overtime calculation for international employees.

In this episode

Built by People podcast features insights from world's top HR leaders

Built by People

Your career as an HR professional began in the mid-'90s

Describing Your Career Journey

One of the most important things that an HR professional can do is stand your ground

What's one unique or valuable story that you'd like to share

An HR business partner role is unique in that it is dedicated to internal clients

The Role of an HR Business Partner

What does it take to become an effective HR business partner

What It Takes to Become an Effective HR Business Partner

What are the opportunities for HR business partners? So I would say

What are the opportunities for HR Business Partners?

What are some of the key trends in compensation and performance management

Compensation and Performance Management: Trends

Phil, any parting advice you'd like to share with our community

Philip Flynn on Built By People

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