SHRM26 Debrief · Leadership & Development · #2125

Creating Resilient Leaders who Thrive in Turbulent Times

with Rob Dubin

▶ Watch on the SHRM portal ~74 min, distilled

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"Denying the empty part of the glass, the challenges you're facing, just as toxic positivity, and it doesn't work. Saying, 'My garden has no weeds' does not make the weeds go away."

What it was about

Optimism, resilience, purpose, and decisive action are learnable, trainable traits (drawn from surviving a five-day Colorado blizzard and decades of filming high achievers) that let leaders treat constant change, including AI, as an opportunity rather than a threat.

By the numbers

75% of millennials

Core Communications study finding on millennials who would take a pay cut to work for a company whose mission matched their own values

Key notes

Cultivate optimism by first acknowledging the empty part of the glass (real challenges), then the full part (your strengths and resources). Then deliberately spend three times more time and energy generating solutions than dwelling on the problem.
In meetings, enforce a rule that the group spends three times as long discussing solutions as it spends discussing the problem, which shortens meetings and increases the number of solutions generated.
Build resilience through three practices: get back up again and again after setbacks, 'stack your wins' by mentally cataloguing past challenges you've overcome, and actively look for post-traumatic growth (becoming stronger, not just surviving) after hard experiences.

The contrarian takeOptimism is not 'seeing the glass as half full': real optimism means acknowledging the glass may genuinely be mostly empty (for instance, a stated 10% survival chance) and still focusing disproportionate energy on solutions rather than denying the severity of the problem. Denial like that is toxic positivity.

Take this back Monday

Do this for your team

In your next team meeting, cap problem talk then spend 3x longer generating solutions before moving on.

Say this in your next leadership meeting

Resilience isn't toxic positivity — it's naming the real problem, then spending three times more energy on solutions than on the problem itself.

Watch out for

Denying or minimizing real challenges ('my garden has no weeds') as toxic positivity, which does not make problems go away.
Spending disproportionately more time discussing problems than discussing solutions, leading to long, unproductive meetings.
Defaulting to a Neanderthal/amygdala-driven fear response that treats change as dangerous rather than engaging the prefrontal cortex to see change as opportunity.

Fun fact · Rob Dubin

Rob Dubin and his wife spent 17 years sailing around the world, visiting more than 100 countries to study how people find calm amid uncertainty.

If this landed, see these

↳ Go deeperAI Can’t Lead Under Pressure. But You Must: Inside the Athleadership Operating System (Part II) A neuroscience-backed Leadership Lab for Strengthening Strategic Influence and Team Stability Under Pressure (with Dr. Michael Mannino)Turns optimism-as-a-trainable-skill into neuroscience-backed conditioning drills for staying steady when AI removes the luxury of having all the answers.⇄ The counterpointHow to Leverage the 5 Hidden Signals That Predict Cultural DriftComplicates the personal-optimism fix: shared conditions don't create shared meaning, so culture can drift even when individual leaders are resilient.✦ The unexpected oneDisrupting the HR Operating Model in the Age of AIApplies the same 'treat change as opportunity, not threat' mindset at the operating-model level, redesigning HR itself instead of just a leader's mindset.